Mar 8, 2008 ... Lagoon Perdana: Notes of Meeting No. 5

Notes of Meeting No.5with KPKT, IJMC and TGSB on Lagoon Perdana Housing Project, Sunway 

Date :              4th March 2008

Time :              1100 hours

Venue :            IJM Construction Sdn Bhd Site Office, Lagoon Perdana, Sunway

Present :          Dr G Parameswaran (Pengarah Bhg Pengawasan & Penguatkuasa, KPKT)

                        Dato Lee Hwa Beng (MCA candidate for MP Kelana Jaya)

                        Mr Quah Beng Teong (IJMC General Manager)

                        Mr Sonny Kok (TGSB & Talam representative)

                        Mr Lee You Hin (MPSJ Councillor)

                        Mr Chow Wah (KPKT)                     

En Radzi (KPKT)

En Mohd Rizuan Omar (KPKT)

                        Mr Tan Tiea Sun (IJMC Construction Manager - Belvedere)

                        Mr Kanvinchelvan (IJMC Construction Manager – LP)

                        Mr Khor Chee Keong (IJMC)

                       

                        Mr Gurcharan Singh (Vice Secretary, LPRA)

                        Mr Alwin Lam (LPRA Rep)

Mr Benjamin Ho (LPRA Rep)

Ms Nina Moy (LPRA Rep)

Mr Jason Choo (LP owner)

Ms Siew Lai (LP owner)

Mr Tan Seong Lim (LP owner)

Ms Ong Chong Swen (MCA candidate for DUN Subang Jaya)

 

c.c.                   YB Dato Seri Ong Ka Ting (Minister of Housing and Local Govt.)

                        YB Bhg Dato Ahmad Fuad bin Ismail (Secretary General of Housing and                          Local Govt.)

                       

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Introduction

1.1    Dato Lee welcomed all attendees of the meeting and indicated the purpose for the meeting was to find out the reasons for Lagoon Perdana (LP) project delay and when the project can finally be delivered.

 

1.2    Dato Lee reminded all purchasers to have confidence with IJM as IJM had very good track records in completing all their projects.  Belvedere work progress was quoted as a good example of IJM’s commitment.

 

1.3    Nina questioned who was TGSB’s representative for this meeting.

 

1.4 Dato Lee indicated that Mr Sonny Kok from Talam is representing both Talam and TGSB.  Dato Lee  informed that TGSB is now back under Talam and no longer owned by the two new (2) Sabahan owners.  Talam wants to see completion of LP project.

Reasons for frequent Work Stoppages at LP

2.1 Nina questioned Talam why the frequent work stoppages at LP and billings made prior to each stop works.

 

2.2 Mr Sonny explained that their appointed contractor, Salam Kurnia (SK) had turn-over problems and over commitment on their part.

 

2.3 Mr Sonny added that there are a total of eight (8) projects managed by SK which have been delayed.

 

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Appointment of New Contractor by IJMC and Talam

3.1 Mr Tan, IJMC indicated that IJM is currently finalizing appointment of contractor to replace existing contractor, SK who is not performing.   IJMC and Talam/TGSB expect to agree and confirm acceptance of new contractor by 7th March 2008.

 

3.2 Letter of award (LOA) will be awarded to new contractor 1 week after acceptance. 

 

3.3 New contractor will be managed by IJMC and is expected to begin works full swing latest by April 2008.

 

3.4 Nina questioned how IJMC and TGSB can ensure no more work stoppages when new contractor is appointed.

 

3.5 Mr TS Tan mentioned IJM’s selection criterion for their contractors includes:

-          price of tender

-          performance bond of 5%

-          financial performance

-          continuous supervision by IJMC to ensure project completion

 

3.6  Benjamin asked if this selection process can guarantee the contractor’s ability to complete the project.

 

3.7. Mr Quah explained that this is not a 100% guarantee but the contractor will tender based on current 2008 construction costs and IJMC is confident of LP’s completion.  Talam/TGSB will have to absorb any cost differences.

 

3.8 According to Mr TS Tan, in the event if contractor could not deliver LP project, the new contractor’s performance bond of 5% will be forefeited by IJMC.   There were no such bond with SK previously as SK was not appointed by IJMC then.

 

3.9 Nina requested for an update to the completion dates for abandoned blocks.

 

3.10 Previous dates submitted to KPKT no longer valid.  Dr Param wants Talam/TGSB to write and submit a realistic date to KPKT and reminded that this date(s) MUST be strictly followed. 

 

3.11 KPKT will inform the  details for the next meeting (to be held sometime 15th March 2008) to discuss completion dates for the abandoned blocks.

 

 

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Project Progress Monitoring

4.1 Nina reminded the need for KPKT to closely monitor LP project to ensure that no more billings prior to stop works.  Purchasers felt cheated  and frustrated that work stopped in Nov 2007 after a billing in Oct 2007.  Purchasers cannot stop the bank payment release as they are bound by their SPAs and Section 176.

 

4.2 Dr Param re-assured that KPKT is constantly monitoring LP project via monthly meetings held at KPKT with Talam on all Talam’s troubled projects.  Last meeting between KPKT and Talam/TGSB was on 20 February 2008.

 

4.3 Dr Param informed that Mr Chow Wah shall be KPKT’s liason officer for LPRA to get updates.

 

4.4 Mr Quah clarified that the last billing has been paid into a HDA account (as required by KPKT regulations) held by IJMC and Talam/TGSB.  The  money has not been released.

 

4.5 Nina asked IJMC and Talam if the unreleased monies could be refunded to purchasers until works at LP resumed. 

 

4.6 Both Mr TS Tan and Mr Sonny indicated that it was not possible as billing was made in accordance to works already completed & certified by the architect.

 

4.7 Dato Lee suggested for KPKT to double certify LP project prior to release of progressive billings to purchasers.

 

4.8 Dr Param clarified that Dato Lee’s suggestion was not possible as project certification should be done by developer’s architect and it was not KPKT’s duty to perform works certifications.

 

4.9 Nina suggested if double certification was not possible, then the developer and IJMC to consider billing only after project is completed & handed over.

   

4.10 Mr Quah indicated that one billing was not possible as IJM had signed an agreement with Talam on progressive payments to be made in accordance to SPA Schedule.

 

4.11 Mr Quah added that all Talam’s projects were all negative income to Talam and it was not possible for them to survive with a single or fewer billings.  However, IJM have promised to do their very best to deliver LP project.  He said the fact that Talam was still around too showed Talam’s commitment to complete LP project.

 

 

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Other Issues

5.1 LP owner raised a concern on structural soundness of LP buildings since it had been abandoned for a long period.  Questioned if defect liability period could be prolonged.

 

5.2 Dr Param indicated that defect liability period for all new projects has been extended from 18 months to 24 months.  However, it does not apply to existing uncompleted projects.  Dr Param confirmed that any structural defects (if present), have a lifetime guarantee by the developer.

 

5.3 The next meeting will be informed by KPKT to all parties concerned.  It will be held sometime around 15th March 2008 (to be confirmed by KPKT).

 

 

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Minuted by,

NINA MOY

Lagoon Perdana Residents Association (LPRA) Representative

i am waiting for this news from 2005. i hope the project will be finish in this year. i have been pay almost rm 550 every months since last 6 years and this year is the 7th.

I bought a unit fr TALAM in Bukit Beruntung 1997, they could not deliver and I was asked to 'transfer", so I picked Lagoon Perdana in 2000, now paying RM726/m, the rest is history !

I'm a victim for 11 yrs! the HDA/law is surely not protecting ordinary/honest people like us! we r so powerless against these big Corp.

who can come to our rescue?

Who can really help us? We are middle-income earners. I am paying RM850 per month to the bankers since the nightmare begun. The bank keep earning the interest but we are stuck with a building that we cannot even stay.....
Can the authorities help - the bank should freeze all interest?

I really hope this is the last....dont delay any more, we are suffering, do u know that...We all know that IJM is a good developer , hope you really can help us, I believe we all are really dessapointed with talam...please ,IJM , please do something for us...ThankYou. But till today, I didnt see any progessive, How soon , the project will kick off again???

Congrats to datuk Lee for your new appointment with PKA!

So r we now on our own?

could datuk or IJM or residents committe, or anybody update us what's going on right now?

WE ARE IN THE DARK?!

THANK U!

i can't even remember when exactly i bought lagoon perdana unit. But is very long time ago..and like others...victims of big corp. games..i have to continue to pay what is due...don't know when it will be over..but frankly...is just like taking loan from ALONG"S...you hv money to feed your family or not..hv money to pay for your rent or not...(since your dream house is just pile of rubbish..i still hv very little faith in GOD..if there is..maybe he will send some angel to help,..to make my dream come true)... but you still have to pay for your BANK loan. I wondering...i don't see anyone in cabinet that we used to choose..or the new one to make a changed..with wild dream that one day...there is a law that can protect us..who earn a living just enuff to feed our child or even less...with small dream to own a house..when we die..they hv place to stay ... or house that make them feel at HOME. ( don't bother to check my grammer...when is signed for my S&P ... i pay a damn lawyer Rm4000 at bangsar there...they draff a perfect S&P..with Oxford Grad's english...and is just good for nothing) pls read on...i am just one of the victim..like others..if not a million at least hundred of thousand..that fall in this trap..with just a small dream..to have a place call it HOME. So..hopefully..just hope...and hope...So what can we do..just continue to served the BANK...and pay for your RENT..or move to a new house again when the owner decide to increase the rent when there is to many demand....or else...just stop pay eveything..go bankrup....and the end of it..live life like prisoner in your own country..with very limited financial freedom..so DATO.. thanks..for what you have done...pls continue to do so..Regards..smallFish in shark tank.

Like others, I am one of the buyer of Lagoon Perdana, victimized, hopeless and really do not know what to do and who to go to. It's been over 3 months since we last got an update on this project but to our disappoinment nothing happens till today. Seriously, stop giving excuses and whoever responsible, just get your act together. If Lee Hwa Beng is not the right person, please direct us to the right party to liaise with cause we have been waiting for a very long time. Like many of the other LP buyers, I have waited more than 6 years and been paying the Bank since then but not getting anything in return. We are not even asking for additional repayment for the delay. All we are asking is to have the apartment completed immediately, according to the original specifications! We hope our plea will not go to deaf ears. Please advise us!!!!


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