Apr 18, 2008 ... How I spent my RM500,000 state allocation

Mr. Lee Hwa Beng,

Thank you for taking the time and making the good effort to clarify on the news report pertaining to the allocated fund of RM500,000.

As a taxpayer in Petaling Jaya, I find it disturbing that expenses from the fund in the previous state government could actually be managed by the practice of 'claim first and pay later'. Is it not correct that when a claim is made, it has to be supported by the bills indicating the amount claimed had actually been paid? The practice of claim-with-supporting-documents is not a fool-proof measure, what with claim-first-pay-later?

For 2008, you said to have ONLY spent RM389,050. My calculator says 77.81% of the five hundred thousand ringgit had been spent in the first three months of the year 2008. Is there not a structured plan on expenses from the fund that will ensure sufficient monies to see through the needs of a constituency until the year end? Although additional fund may be applied from the state government, having to do so without a proper planning on expenses is ultimately a waste of public fund. We, in Petaling Jaya, are paying very high assessment rate. It wouldn't be too much to expect the monies placed in the previous government's coffer to be managed with prudence. Would it?

There is no need to take a swipe at the new government giving these funds to only PR respresentatives. Whether it is Pakatan Rakyat or BN managing any state, we all only ask for ONE thing - good, clean governance.

I think Anonymous has missed LHB's message completely in particular to LHB's final para of the original postings. Granted that all of us expects good and clean governance. It was an accusation that the allocation was only given to BN representatives only. It seems that the PR administration has done the same too. So, any claims of unfair allocation cannot be used anymore against BN as the same applies to PR.

In any case, the PR state assembly person shall now become accountable for the utilization of the funds.

Loi Kok Mun

Mr Lee,

You spent RM 62,500 on sporting activities alone.
How about this: a whopping RM 68,350 on Chinese New Year celebrations.

How do you justify that?

And here's another one. RM 10,000 on a karaoke competition? Please tell the people of Subang how ten thousand tax-payer's ringgit ended up at a karaoke gig. I think they deserve an explanation.

Fergus Ong

Why should the PR goverment give you more funds to abuse? It is so clear that you have abused the funds.

Your analogies and stupid. You should just retire and shut up.

Mr. Lee,
You BN Goons have smoked away your allocations of RM500,000 in 60 days. Yet you have the cheek to ask for more. Either you are stupid or dumb. Pls let us know. All politicians are not SAME, but all BN politicians are the same.
You are really a dumb idiot.

I think Kok Mun has missed the point Anonymous was making. How in the world did LHB spend almost 78% of his allocated funds in 2 months ?. He/She is not commenting on allocations being given only to BN/PR. His Peruntukan 2008 page is all fine and dandy, however it's still only April!. Also, the PR state Assembly person is not accountable for the 78% already spent, LHB is. PR is only has 12% to play with. I also find the claim-then-pay scheme troubling, this is bad practice by any accounting standard. If it stinks, then it has to be bad.

KT Pereira

Err... correct me if I am wrong but I believe from press statements what the new Selangor MB meant was:

1. Allocation is 500,000 annually, ie, per year.

2. Previously, all non-BN areas are not allocated and BN areas are.

3. Election was in March, allocation was in Jan.

So for 2008, all BN-held already got their allocation and PR held areas will be given their allocations for the year.

So in my opinion, it will be fair allocation if:

1. BN & Non-BN constituencies are allocated based on who held the seats BEFORE elections, ie, a PR seat which is formally held by BN before elections should NOT get an allocation, else, double allocation for that constituency.

2. Asking previous rep to account for spending a large proportion of their allocation(election was Mar 7, so in Subang Jaya's case, 71% was spent in the first TWO months) before allocating fresh funds is what any clean govt will do, it's call auditing.

3. Based on (2), a constituency is proven to have spent their allocation wisely for the rakyat and need fresh allocation, it should be approved, based on availability to both PR & BN reps.

Sweeping statements like BN & PR 'all the same' is akin to campaigning when the election is already over, so please get back to work.

cheers,
USJ Resident.

ONLY RM389K has been spent in MERE 2 months?

As regards to your last paragraph, i think you are trying to change our attention...The issue is not whether the BN or PR assemblyman gets the allocation but whether you have spent the funds wisely for the benefits of the people. If RM500K been allocated annually, an approximately of only RM42K should be spent in one month.....but in your case? WASTAGE!!!

http://hannahyeoh.blogspot.com/2008/04/state-allocation-for-dun-subang-jaya.html

Why does the Selangor State govnt. still have to allocate additional money to the BN DUN when they already spent their allocation of RM500,000 in two months?

If the State govnt allocate more to the BN DUN, then they will have the allocation of RM1,000,000 within a year.

If LHB think that the State govnt still need to allocate for the BN DUN, then he is day dreaming. This is how the BN lost in GE12 in the first place.

I for once vote for PR this time.

Hi Hwa Beng

Firstly to touch on allocation, you should have told your fella SA (when BN was the govt then) that allocation must be fair to all SA irrespective of which party to serve the ppl. you should not punish the community just bcos they are not for BN. i pay all kinds of taxes and why did BN has to punish anyone who is living in then opposition controlled area? and to be fair to all current BN SA, i really hope that they could get the same allocation as the PR SA. the PR govt should not commit the same sin as you and the rest did.....

secondly, you may have all the bills to substantiate your claims but please ask your own conscience before God (remember those days what you have shared in various churches??), was it all clean and non-inflated? if you are answerable to your own conscience and are truly clean, let us know and we will accept your integrity.

Please reply to my comment not using a 3rd party. Answer it yourself .............

Consider this situation:
1.5 months gone. 10.5 months left for new ADUNs = 0.875 year.
New State Govt allocate pro-rata 0.875 of budget of RM 500k = RM 438k.

Case 1:
Ni Sg Ayer Tawar: Assume previous BN ADUN used up the RM 500 k . New BN ADUN comes in. No money left.

Is he entitled to a fresh allocation of RM 438k? Or should he claim from previous ADUN? What if it was the same person, meaning the incumbent won reelection?

Why should the BN ADUN be given new funds for their own wastefulness?

Case 2:
N31 Subang Jaya: Previous ADUN used up RM389k. Only RM111k left with Land Office. By pro-rata, previous ADUN should have used RM 63k. New DAP ADUN has shortfall of RM 326k.

How?

Claim from who?

To be fair, the State Govt has to top up the funds at the land office by RM 326k so that the new ADUN has funds to operate.

pywong

Correct me if I am wrong. Is it true that federal or state development grants are only allocated to BN held constituancies? Opposition MPs or state assemblymen get nothing? Everyone whether you are in opposition or govt is a tax payer. Is it then not logical for residents in let's say Kepong not to pay taxes to income tax dept , but instead pay directly to Dr Tan Seng Giaw for him to administer?
Spending 75% of funds in 2 months out of 12 is not prudent. Say what you like, it is very wrong.
And now PR aduns get extra allocation for them to cover the rest of the years is justified. And you BN guys have to make do with whatever you have not already spent. Just too bad.

I think Loi has also missed the point. The question is that 77% of the funds has been spent in less than 3 months and that leaves only 23% to be spent for the rest of the 9 months should Mr. LHB get re-elected. It does matter whether the PR administration is doing the same or not but why 77% in less than 3 months of the year.
You can list whatever you want to justify your spending and the question is, are those monies spent wisely and really benefit the constituents?
Now Loi is saying LHB spent the money and the PR Admin is accountable. That is pathetic.

Lone Ranger

Usually I planned it over the year as in 2007 & 2006.For 2008 I predicted the elections would be in March,hence I tried to utilise as much as possible as I knew I shall be standing in parliament.The norm is that the new rep will get new funds.
Afterall it was for SJ residents.
Loi Kok Mun was right in getting my message.
Hwa Beng

Usually I planned it over the year as in 2007 & 2006.For 2008 I predicted the elections would be in March,hence I tried to utilise as much as possible as I knew I shall be standing in parliament.The norm is that the new rep will get new funds.
Afterall it was for SJ residents.
Loi Kok Mun was right in getting my message.
Hwa Beng

"Previously, the 3 PR parties had accused BN governments of only giving these funds to only BN respresentatives and why none given to the opposition parties then. I have been informed that the Selangor government had recently approved the same amount, i.e. RM500,000 to only PR representatives. If this is so, then they are also like the BN government, i.e. unfair to only give to PR representatives and not to the opposition (BN) representatives."

Looks like you are actively filtering opinions/clarifications that differs from your own view of things.

Well Hwa Beng, I see you you pick and choose which comments you show on your website (my comment yesterday wasn't approved ?). If you're really interested in salvaging your political career:
+ Accept all comments as long as they're not breaking any laws
+ Let there be a discussion on your website, more people will start reading your blog and get the 'real' you

Don't be afraid of discussion, they'll always be people who like you and people who don't. If you only accept comments that are favourable, then those who like you will start disliking you.

KT Pereira

"Previously, the 3 PR parties had accused BN governments of only giving these funds to only BN respresentatives and why none given to the opposition parties then. I have been informed that the Selangor government had recently approved the same amount, i.e. RM500,000 to only PR representatives. If this is so, then they are also like the BN government, i.e. unfair to only give to PR representatives and not to the opposition (BN) representatives."

Dear Mr Hwa Beng,

Interesting, 1068 read your blog to date, only 2 responses which conveniently allow you to put across your point. Are you sure those are the only comments you get or did you actively filter to your advantage?

Your blog, your choice but Malaysians are not stupid, especially USJ & Kelana residents who are one of the most educated and connected online in the country.

Enough have been written about why BN lost and what is responsible blogging so I shall not add my 2 cents.

I am just here to add: your statement on BN & PR allocation is twisted, I believe the MB didnt say no allocation for BN held seats, he merely said account for it first and that RM500K is annual allocation, so he's merely allocating to areas not allocated in the past and for BN held areas, should there be clear accountability, he'll consider releasing the funds, part of what a responsible govt will do, not like BN style of terminating MOU, outright no allocation.

Furthermore, your own admission of more allocation for election years smack clearly of indirectly buying votes come election... and the need to 'use up' allocation asap because election is coming simply means you are NOT spending for the rakyat but spending for yourself as though it is your own money, totally irresponsible.

Your own post implicates you. Maybe the state govt's legal department should look at your allegations and the way allocation(rakyat's money) are spent.

Like the rest of your colleagues, wake up and get real. Hardworking MP or not, maturity and integrity is just as important don't you think.

Dear Dato Lee,
I understand from a forumer that most of the allocation was spent in Kelana Jaya rather than in Subang Jaya. I just wanted some clarification on whether this is true and if yes, can Dato explain a little bit more into the details of why was it spent more in Kelana Jaya when the allocation is for Subang Jaya? I am not jumping the gun but just wanted the calrification so that I don't simply believe everything I read on the net. Thanks

stevencbs

Just wondering what would happen to the people who really need help from your fund, if your 'prediction' was wrong? Thank god the election wasn't held on January.

I do appreciate that at least you are showing your 'peruntukan' online. However, such blatant kind of pork barrel spending shouldn't even exist in the first place.

All the best for your career.

I see that RM 72,500.00 of DUN 31 Subang Jaya's allocation has benefited Kelana Jaya! I did not invent these figure, it came from your state allocation expenditure statement. Why? You said it benifited Subang Jaya contituents. Are you under the mistaken impression that Kelana Jaya and Subang Jaya is one and the same? Kelana Jaya is not in DUN 31 Subanga Jaya!

Kelab Kebajikan Subang Jaya got RM2,500
Kelab Kebajikan Sunway got Rm2,500

Kelab Kebajikan & Kebudayaan Wanita Kelana Jaya RM20,000
Kelab Sukan & Kebajikan Bhg Kelana Jaya RM30,000
Kelab Kebajikan Kaum India Bah Kelana Jaya RM 12,500
Kemas Parlimen Kelana Jaya RM10,000

Why did the Kelab Kebajikan in Subang Jaya and Sunway only get a measly RM2.5K each when the others outside of DUN 31 Subang Jaya get princely amounts. Even in 2007 Kelana Jaya clubs received about RM40K.

Umadavid

umadavid,

Why so much money are spent in kelana jaya can be easily understood, if our YB already knew where he is contesting next.

Allo Mr Lee Hwa Beng,

I'm a resident in Subang Jaya (Sec 19). 1st of all I do admire you for having this website/blog & a bit open as compared to most of your UMNO relatives (which I see as bunch of hopeless goons).

As a resident I do not see any of the money you spend benefits me or my neighbors. Basically the way I see it is that is was a definite wasteful. Please do not try to make any excuses. Subang Jaya People has opted for a better representative (Hanna Yeoh) than you can ever be.

The way I see it is that for you is either you shut up or repent yourself by joining either PKR or DAP.

Fauzi

I find it strange that those who are now on the Opposite side of the camp from LHB are making a fuss about allocations. These "people" (if you can call them people) were also the beneficiaries of funds handed out by the former ADUN.
They would be seen at his service centre asking for funds and getting them to carry out all sorts of activities be it in USJ, SJ or even Sunway!
When they got the funds, did they ask where it's coming from?
Recently I heard that one RA who had received funds for their family day earlier had the cheek to ask the new ADUN Hannah for more funds. And best of all, they "forgot" to invite everyone in their neighbourhood.
Ultimately it is easy to point the finger and bite the hand that used to be extended out to these people. Shame on them!
They slander, lie and twist just to make themselves look good.
Show your hands lah guys....U know who u are....dun be shy

:-)

loi kok mun is a complete crap + dumbo. the point here is on the utilization of the funds, not allocation to whatever party components. go back to school please.

ADUN's do not feed us! Where did you such an idea? Is the ADUN feeding you and your family? Why must "show your hands lah, guys" Annonymous? Isn't all those who received clearly noted in the statement? Or are you implying that some receive the money without it being mentioned ah?

BTW, tabik to LHB for putting up his allocation statement! Unfortunately everyone can see the bias whereby the select few got the mullah, some frequently and regularly, while most are ignored.

How does it work? The group which makes the most approaches get it ? The most deserving cases should by right get it, but do they? Most probably the ones in need don't even know that funds are available for the asking!

Due to bad planning (political move) part of the people who live in USJ are now shoved off to be under Kinrara and Puchong when rightfully they should be Subang Jaya contituents. LHB has said that he will come when invited by he cannot help these people cos not his contituents mah. But KJ folks boleh tolong!

To all,

I did not expect so many comments to this posting.  It is strange that there was not even one comment before as I had always posted my expenditure in the web.  My replies to comments are :-

1)         Fergus Ong  -  This allocation is mainly for “mesra rakyat” activities.  For other expenditures like repairs, upkeep, etc were mostly spent directly by MPSJ or the State Government.  Hence a lot went for sporting and even CNY.  Most of these were given to organisations located in Subang Jaya for sports or CNY activities.  Even the RM10,000 was given to Senior Citizen Club of Subang Jaya to carry out their karaoke competition.

2)         KT Pereira / USJ Resident  -  The unspent amount will not be given to Hannah Yeoh.  It will just remain in the State.  I was told Hannah Yeoh, like all PR ADUN’s, will be given a fresh RM500,000 each.  Existing BN seats will not be gvien any allocation by the PR State Government. 

I agree that BN ADUN’s should not be given another RM500,000 this year as it will add up to RM 1 million.  Let us see whether they will give to them next year.

3)         To another query whether I can guarantee all these amounts were really clean, I have to ask those organisations or individuals who received the monies.  They have to account to the organisations they represent and I cannot verify that.  I cannot deny there might be cases where an individual who received the fund on behalf of an organisation/or activity abused it.  Then he or she must account for it.

4)         The allocation for 2007 was also RM500,000 and hence RM500,000 for 2008 as election year is not true..

5)         Subang Jaya is part of Kelana Jaya.  Hence I believe those organisations claiming under Kelana Jaya used it mostly for Subang Jaya.  Sunway is part of the Subang Jaya State Constituency.

My intention to post my expenditure was not meant to offend anyone.  If only some of you had commented previously, I shall then be able to respond accordingly.  Without responds from you, I have to depend on my judgement.

Also, I started these postings after comments made in USJ.com many years ago on how I spent my allocation.

I have accepted my loss and respect all your decisions.  After all, this is what democracy is about.

Lee Hwa Beng

A man asked his father-in-law, "Many people praised you for a successful marriage. Could you please share with me your secret?"
The father-in-law answered in a smile, "Never criticize your wife for her shortcomings or when she does something wrong. Always bear in mind that because of her shortcomings and weaknesses, she could not find a better husband than you."

We all look forward to being loved and respected. Many people are afraid of losing face. Generally, when a person makes a mistake, he would look around to find a scapegoat to point the finger at. This is the start of a war. We should always remember that when we point one finger at a person, the other four fingers are pointing at ourselves.

If we forgive the others, others will ignore our mistake too.

I personally think you are relatively much better than your comrades in BN. Unfortunately people are so frustrated by the dirty stuff your comrades have done. They need a channel to voice out their frustration and some people can only find this blog. That should be why you might think why people are hitting comments at your blog so negatively.

My advice, leave BN and join a better party!

It is ok for people to criticise me.Afterall it is important to listen from you all.I only plead for decent language and be fair to me.
All holders of public office must be able to accept other people views.
I only find it strange why some people still keep on wallop me.The people had spoken,I have lost and I have accepted it.Let us look forward and should concentrate on the people in public positions from all political parties.Afterall the rakyat put them there and they are accountable to the people who voted them.
Hwa Beng

(1) Why was there a need for the indecent hurry "to utilise as much as possible". What sort of lame brained logic is that, Lee Hwa Beng?
(2) And where did you learn that the following is alright as a justification for misuse of existing funds entrusted to you to be used for the entire year ............ "The NORM is that the new rep will get new funds." What bullshit is that ?
(3) Have you heard of something called a BUDGET ?
You and Khir Toyo had a bottomless kitty to pull money out of or what to give to the next ADUN?
(4) What NORM are you stupidly referring to ?
(5) Is this your spending pattern every election year only i.e. get as much mileage out of the annual allocation and after that bleed the state coffers ( or coffin as your lord and master Khir Toyo stupidly said ) for more funds?
This is the lowest you have sunk Lee Hwa Beng.

Your being thrown out of ( what you claimed was ) your house, Subang Jaya, ( Loh Seng Kok is still held here in high esteem despite being, in your eyes, only a guest ) is final testimony that it was good riddance of bad rubbish.
Lee, I know you are good man, but UMNO corrupts everyone that it touches ............ you were not just touched but were embraced and suckled by UMNOputras. Your crime was that in return you chose to polish the butts of the UMNO rogues ............ you have paid the price.
Now try not to make a bigger ass of your self by giving the public such weakbrained garbage as justification for your gross incompetence in handling public funds.

Did not register properly. So my name not in post.

The post "Lee Hwa Beng, stop talking thru your sitting end ?" was placed by me, Joe Gomez.

I am from Bandar Sunway and have the purest form of contempt for UMNO butt polishers ................ Lee Hwa Beng knows that.

From Joe Gomez, Bandar Sunway.

Dear YBhg Lee Hwa Beng
We have known each other for a good number of years.
I wish to state that I have nothing but the highest respect for Lee Hwa Beng,
- the persona that I have met/seen in PRIVATE,
- the deeply religious man,
- the good and amiable friend,
- the loving family man,
- the voluble, amiable and genial conversationalist.

On the flip side, I have only the purest form of contempt for Lee Hwa Beng,
- as he is a MCA member, a party that cannot save itself from the onslaught of UMNO worms when push comes to shove
- the UMNO nurtured politician,
- the UMNO second fiddler,
- the elected representative who represents ( and propogates ) only his own survival in the UMNO-dominated political world,
- who allowed himself to be used as the mouthpiece for the UMNO sullied Federal / State govt and its nominated cronies in the MPSJ,
- who mouthed calls for "Local govt elections" only to serve to get presss coverage,
- who earned the role of ADUN the ignominous label "longkang ADUN" ( which incidently the next ADUN has to somehow try to erase).
- who did not hammer the UMNO cronies in MPSJ fro treating YBhg Loh Seng Kok with disdain and disrespect at a meeting in MPSJ

Now as for your comments in the context of the M500k I wld like to add that the PR state govt shd not allocate funds to BN reps for a very good reason. Pls let me tell you in confidence ( pls dont tell anyone that I told you so ;-) ) that I heard from the highest possible authority in this land ( i.e. from the many many voters of this constituency ................... this fact needs to be repeated to chaps like you who erroneously think that UMNO is the highest possible authority ) that PR did not want to allocate funds to BN reps cos yet again the brainless BN fools would level the accusation that this was another attempt at buying over the BN reps. Remember what happened in Penang where Guan Eng's offer of a post to a Gerakan rep was misconstrued and indecent political mileage was extracted by every BN mongrel ?

Again your plea for all of us to move on ( as you have lost the elections, the public has spoken, go on with our lives, we shd all talk decently etc ) is untenable cos you have not addressed some fundamental flaws in the justification you proferred for the MiSUSE OF PUBLIC FUNDS. It is also not tenable cos you were in public office. Your acts of ommision nd commission. while in public office, must rightfully follow you to the proverbial grave. Being thrown out of office is not by itself enough retribution for misdeeds.
Didnt your UMNO masters or even Ng Kah Ting teach you that ?

Read each post carefully before responding and try not to slither away.

If it is any consolation to you, the new reps will be subjected to equally demanding scrutiny.
In meantime, I am aware that your sidekicks are already present at various fora ( electronic and otherwise ) demanding of these reps what they never demanded of you over the several terms that you were in office as the ADUN.
I assure you that we will play you at your game Lee Hwa Beng.
My prayers are with the guys at the Klang port.
May God protect them from you and your UMNO masters.
Cheers.

I think enough been said on this issue.Let the public judge us.
Hwa Beng

Mr. LHB,

Your name only came across in my life during the GE2008. That was the first time in my life I've ever voted, and what a time to get into politics. Anyway, I've only heard about your name through my mum, she was a senior citizen in Subang Jaya.

Of course, being a senior citizen, she joined Senior Citizen association. And she kept bringing back lots of breakfast every morning after her "senior citizen association morning group exercise." So curiously I asked her why so rich all of a sudden ? And that's when she said, oh, you know how election is near, Mr. LHB is giving out cash for various senior citizen association for B.fast lunch etc.....and according to my mum, certain time it was RM 500 and at certain area it was RM 2000 (apparently, from my mum's observation, though she's in her early 60s, she can still observe).

And the best part was, she knows exactly where our Mr. LHB shall be giving so called "hand out" and she was there at most of the occasions. That's when it dawned on me, so I asked my mum " SO, you voting him ?" and guess what, "should I ?" was my mum's response.

And that was when I realized what they meant by buying votes, although, very indirectly, or perhaps unintentionally ? Now I know how you can spend a few hundred thousands of ringgit in a couple of months. And that was when I decided to vote and luckily, I did register to vote but didn't bother to vote back in 2004 due to the "Vote or no vote, BN sure win" mentality. Well, guess what, not anymore......

Dear Anonymous,

All due respect to you!! but those are some serious accusations you throwing there my fren.

U Have any idea of the word Defamation? Unless u can come out with evidence please refrain from making such remarks.

LHB might have his shortcoming but that does not warrant for such remarks or accusation.

USJ6

Khir Toyo and his colleagues burnt half a million in the first 60 days of the year.
You want to give them another half million to burn?
Nonsense.

To be fair to me,I have been giving funds for senior citizen activities,esp to Senior Citizen Club of SJ since 1995.
Hwa Beng

Datuk Lee, I was one of those who voted dap for state and u for parliament. I agree with u that all politicians are the same BUT we the people need hope to go thru the daily grind of life. So yes, im a bit disappointed that PR did not change the practice of disbursing funds only to their own party but it does not change the fact that PR still have lots of time and potential to change for the better the way the government is run. So here's hoping u go thru this a stronger and better politician and make a healthy comeback.

PS and its not buying votes. He does help with the senior citizens on mundane things like setting up lights in the field for exercises and such.

Dear YBhg LHB
May I suggest that every Anonymous post gets a number ( auotmatically tagged by your server, of course ) as either a perfix or a post fix so that when another person refers to a comment made by an Anonymous person the search is made little easier.

tq and God bless.

Joe Gomez

I agree with USJ6 that comments that are not substantiated by facts shd be avoided.
TO Anonymous who posted under following topic .....

Indirectly Buying Votes ?
Submitted by Anonymous on 28 April 2008 - 11:52pm.

..... my suggestion is ...................
Be angry for stupid rational given ......... get upset for inconsistencies in actions taken ........... but dont fabricate i.e a direct accusation of misdemeanour must be suppported by verifiable facts.
Can you provide such facts i.e. for the vote buying allegation ?

Joe Gomez

From Joe Gomez, Bandar Sunway

Opps. my mistake.
Sori Anonymous.
Upon closer reading I realise that you did not outright accuse. You meant that such spending can be interpreted as an attempt to buy votes, indirectly or unintentionally. Being so close to and preceding the elections it will be difficult not to draw that inference .............. you are right.
So I withdraw my request to you to furnish proof of misdemeanour.
Yep very true. The indecent haste in which this was done and the shallow rationale bein given is damning for all ex ( thank God for that ) Barisan Selangor state assemblymen.
All BN fellows knew that such inference will be made but I believe they could not care a damn. It was their arrogance and foolish belief that they will be returned to power, that prevented them from facing the reality.
Arrogance ? Lee Hwa Beng ? How can ??
Sure can. Ask Lee Hwa Beng to explain why he and his sidekicks/ pet dogs drove their 4-wheelers into a voting station with cameras and his henchmen on tow and entered a saluran where voting was going on. He was chased out by a friend of mine in a sekolah in USJ 3.
A candidate can visit .........
NO CAMERA IN HAND.
NO "PET DOGS" ARE ALLOWED TO COME WITH THEM.
YOU THINK LHB DOES NOT KNOW THIS?
OF COURSE HE KNEW , BUT THOUGHT THAT HE WILL WIN ANYWAY ........ SO ALL WILL BE FORGOTTEN.
THAT IS ARROGANCE.

"I think enough been said on this issue.Let the public judge us."
YBhg Lee, you posted the above.

The public judged on 8th March 2008, right ?
What more judgement you waiting for ?
The next one is another 4 to 5 years away. So your judgement day is over, you will be reminded of your faults till the end of your days.
This is to teach the present elected representatives a very important lesson i.e. that there is no escaping the wrath of the public especially for one in public office. Their punishment, like yours, must follow till the end of their days.
No more resurrecting and FORGIVING statutory rapist in Melaka.
No more reviving and FORGIVING AUD5 million suitcase couriers in Selangor.
And all criminals of Barisan origin.
Not you of course lah, Dato.
But in your case, you were enslaved by these UMNO criminals making you an accessory to the acts of these criminals.

Hi Joe,

Was Pet Dog even necessary? Its always interesting and enjoyable to read ur forum comments but calling people PET DOGS? errr dunno la a little too low especialy for a respected opinion leaders such as urself.

USJ6

LHB,
Kudos, I'm glad you've allowed this open discussion. You have to admit, you're getting a lot more views on your website. Good luck

KT Pereira

Hi highblood4877
My comments touched on YBhg (at material time he was YB now of course, YBhg) Lee Hwa Beng's callousness and total disrespect for the election system.

He had ridden roughshod over the sanctity of one of the most sacred provisions of a democratic system i.e. A DEMOCRATIC ELECTION.

All the while they ( he and his gate crashers i.e. partners in crime ) prominently displayed their party badges on their lapel.

They had adorned their 4-wheelers (2 of them ) with BN flags and posters.

They drove into the gates of the school throwing mud in the face of the election guideline/ruling that no campaign material shd be displayed within voting stations.

And all you can find to take umbrage with, is the fact that I referred to his 4-wheeler companion/gangsters as "PET DOGS" ?

Okay do you think he shd have brought his "pet CATS" (acceptable ?) including that fatso who always follows him around & his cameraman into a place where these a clearly prohibited ?

THEY WERE ASKED TO GET THE HELL OUT !!

As a voter I am angry and the pen being mightier than the sword, I want to let Lee know that words are mightier than his 4-wheeler stunts.
So I choose words to hurt .............
BECAUSE LEE HWA BENG HURT ME, SUBANGITES AND ALL MALAYSIANS in general with his gangster tactics on that day.
CAN YOU FIND IT IN YOUR HEART TO UNDERSTAND THAT highblood4877?

All this abt YBhg Lee is way off topic.
I needed to get it off my chest.
YBhg Lee, it is indeed heartening to see that you have not changed one bit ............... you allow all kinds of comments even from the likes of guys like me.
Thank you for being the same at least in this aspect.
That is true sportsmanship.
Your inability to get the UMNO creeps to display similar qualities left much to be desired though.
I SAW A GOOD MAN IN YOU YBhg LEE .. SAW SOME HOPE OF ERASING BN's GORY PAST ............... BUT YOU DISSAPPOINTED ME (at least ) IN EVERY TERM WHILE IN OFFICE.
God Bless you my friend.
After all this "friend" ?

You shd see what some of my closest friends get from me and ALSO GIVE BACK TO ( I.E HANTAM ME ) ME.

"And all you can find to take umbrage with, is the fact that I referred to his 4-wheeler companion/gangsters as "PET DOGS" ?

Okay do you think he shd have brought his "pet CATS" (acceptable ?) including that fatso who always follows him around & his cameraman into a place where these a clearly prohibited ?"

I REST MY CASE!!!!!